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Leesa Barnes on the Social Media Telesummit


Saw a notice this morning about a new “Social Media Telesummit” being organized by author and consultant Leesa Barnes, and had osme questions.

So I asked, and she’s answered. Here’s the story in her own words:

  • Have you test marketed this concept – particularly in terms of the time commitment?
What’s important here is how people can access the content. That’s what makes the Social Media Telesummit so unique. I’m offering 5 separate ways for attendees to consume the content – either live, or through a private RSS feed, or on CDs, or on a portable player or online. My guess is that the majority of attendees will choose to access the information when – and how – they want to based on timezone, learning style, time, language and other commitments.
  • Has anyone else done this? What are the closest parallels that you’ve seen?
There are many examples of others who have run multi-day, multi-speakers events:
  • Coaching Telesummit – Run 3 years by Milana Leshinsky for coaches
  • International Podcasting Expo – Virtual event run by Penny Haynes
  • Network Marketing Telesummit – Multi-day, multi-speaker virtual event
  • Conscious Business Entrepreneurs – One day multi speaker virtual event
  • Career Telesummit – Multi day, multi speaker virtual event run by Marcia Bench
  • Did you consider partnering with a professional association (CPRS, IABC, or a business-oriented one like Cdn Chamber of Commerce or CFIB)? If so, why not do that?
Yes, some organizations have been approached.
  • Who’s your target market?
Business leaders and business owners who want to leverage social media as a business tool.
  • Some feedback I’ve gotten suggests the copy & style is a bit infomercial-esque. How did you come up with the style of writing for the site, and the site architecture, which I find a bit clunky?
The goal is to provide an information page with everything on it so all questions are answered. Those who are interested in the event will read the page from top to bottom. Those who aren’t will say that it’s swarmy, sleezy, or whatever adjective they’ll use to describe it.

I went with the long sales letter because it works. Until someone shows me numbers using another style that trumps the numbers with long sales copy, I’ll stick with what works.

I’m sure this will be debated until kingdom come – whether or not social media projects should use the long sales page format to sell units. Or whether or not to use long sales copy in B2B transactions. I’d rather side on what works until I see someone prove me wrong using a different format.

  • How many participants will this take to fly?

My aim is 200. I can take on more, but I’d like a minimum of 200. That provides a good number for networking opportunities.

  • Do you consider this a step into the ‘commercial’ conference game, sort of an attempt to change the rules of conferencing?
Every conference has its place and all can survive in this competitive marketplace. The Ne Media Expo and Blog World Expo charge for admission to their sessions. The various camps, such as Podcamp, Barcamp, Democamp, etc. offer free sessions.

I’ve heard from many people who say that traveling to Los Angeles or Las Vegas (or any other city) for tech conferences isn’t financially, physically or geographically possible. Others say that the entrance fee to tech events are too expensive. Others cite that free events tend to attract lower quality speakers. Everyone has a reason why they will or will not support a specific event. The Telesummit won’t satisfy or interest everyone. Instead, the Telesummit is designed to help bridge this gap, both financially (because people can choose their level of access) and geographically (because the Telesummit is virtual).

  • How did you get the speakers? Are they being compensated?

I have a professional relationship with each speaker on the roster. Over the past 3 years, I’ve done a lot of networking in the social media space. I’m glad that based on these relationships, whether it’s chatting at a conference, having dinner while waiting for flights or connecting while working on a project, I could call each of these individuals to speak at the Telesummit. As for compensation, I’m not open to sharing that.

  • How many affiliates do you have?
Enough to help me achieve my goal of 200 attendees.
  • Besides the affiliate program, how are you marketing the conference?
Using every means of social media possible. Blog, podcasts, videos, tagging, you name it, my team will use it. I’m also marketing using traditional channels, such as media interviews and direct mail.
  • Would you do this as an annual event, or might you move to a different conference theme entirely?
Not sure yet. I’d like to see how this one pans out first.
  • In terms of delivery, why not get a 1-800 line and build it into the cost structure, rather than let people know “long-distance will apply?”

What means we use to deliver the content isn’t the issue. Instead, it’s how attendees will choose to consume the info that is the true benefit. My guess is that the majority of attendees will access the recordings or purchase them on a portable device for consumption later on. For those who choose to access the sessions live, there will be two choices – use the phone or stream it over the Internet.

The big message I want to leave you with is that the Social Media Telesummit is all about choice. Attendees choose how much they want to spend to attend the Telesummit. Attendees choose when and how they want to access the sessions. Attendees choose whether to tell others about this or not. Attendees choose to attend the networking sessions in Second Life. And isn’t that the advantages of social media over traditional media? To be able to access what we want and when we want to?

It’s also about relationships. The speakers wouldn’t have answered my emails unless they knew me. Attendees wouldn’t register unless I connected with them using blogs, podcasts and Second Life. If they couldn’t hear or see me, why bother? Even my virtual assistant wouldn’t put in extra hours to help me launch the tools we’re using for the Telesummit if we didn’t have a relationship. Social media is about relationships and I’m glad that the Telesummit is proving just that.

Thanks, Leesa, for taking the time to answer the questions, and good luck — although I’m doubtful I’ll be part of the summit, I think it’s got great potential.

Ciao,
Bob.

Live blogging podcamp — webcasting pod tools

At a podcamp Toronto panel with tons of folks talking about Web tools, which is being blogged live by Connie Crosby and Sean McCaughey. Listening to these guys, in particular the young and scarily energetic Steve “Snowball” Saylor, I have no choice but to say it.

I’M FREAKING OLD.

So many tech tools to learn about. So many more than I feel capable of learning.
Ciao,
Bob.

podcamp and its competition in the west

While we’re getting ready for a panel discussion at Podcamp Toronto, Tod Maffin is posting audio from “Hacking the MotherCorp” from the other side of the country.

Interesting discussions about media that took place at this camp. This may well stimulate more discussion on the podcamp blog…?

Ciao,
Bob.

Liveblogging Podcamp — tips for panellists #44857

For the love of God, people. If you’re sitting on a panel with a mike in front of you … DON’T POUND THE DESK! This means you, Julien.

Despite all this, I have learned a lot from him this weekend.

Ciao,
Bob.

Live blogging podcamp — podcasting in a university environment

Still podcamping. Jim Milles of the University of Buffalo Law School is talking now about “the academy and podcasting.”

They’re using a conversational model where they get one of their profs to hav ea chat with a guest. This gets through the apparently tedious (who knew?) process of parsing a 100-page law review article.

I want to find out about how they train profs in terms of interview skills and what the biggest pitfall to overcome in creating this series was .

Milles podcasts as well.

Ciao,
Bob.

Liveblogging podcamptoronto: Should your company be podcasting?

Terry is just asnwering a qustion from Brent Cooper about whether there are examples of podcasts being used as sales tools or sales support, and made the point that Inside PR is a credibility boosting tool and that David Jones’s departure to Fleishman-Hillard was a good thing, becuase it increasd the podcast’s credibility. He has, consequently, forgiven David. :-)

The whole point of all this podcasting / social media stuff goes back to a phrase that I first heard yesterday (somewhat behind the times, I think) — Return on Influence (ROI-version 2?). The point of all this, and this is something that has been demonstrated to be anathema to some of the more corporate types, is that it’s not ABOUT the sale. At least not directly. The return is just not that directly linked. Hard to get the corporate head around that.

Ciao,
Bob.

Liveblogging podcamptoronto: Should your company be podcasting

GREAT panel here at podcamp Toronto on “Should your corporation be blogging?” Mitch Joel is moderating and recording for his podcast, so yhou can listen to the whole thing soon.

Terry Fallis:

  • A podcast is NOT a strategy
  • Great for informing, advocating, communicating … but not SELLING. It’s a leadership positioning tool, less than a ‘sales’ vehicle.

Donna Papacosta:

  • Thinking back to the days of sending out audiotapes; used Saturday pharmaceutical presentation as an example. Don’t necessarily replace internal newsletters etc; use podcasting as add-on. Can replace conference calls with podcasts.

Michael Seaton:

  • Great voice for audio
  • Looked at Scotiabank‘s digital marketing platform.
  • Thought of Moneysense model, but branded for the newsletter.
  • “Break the chains of the printed word”
  • “Is it right for us?”

Luke Armour:

  • The power when the podcasting technology it IS right with the strategy is amazing.

Mitch: “How do you sell this internally?”

  • Donna: Low risk, low cost, the spoken word has great power, and you can leverage that power.
  • Michael: Call it a pilot project, manage the expectations, control scope and focus, make sure it’s right on the content side.
  • Donna: Could set it up as a limited series (3 podcasts on…)
  • Terry: worth taking the time to produce a finished product, take it to the C-suite and give them the product, then explain the investment necessary.
  • Luke: if there’s a need to be addressed (ie international conference call), that’s easy; sometimes, you have to get past the stigma some hold for the term (blog, podcast, etc).

Video podcasting:

There’s some concern on the panel about this, Scoble et al notwithstanding. Sense that there’s an inherent passivity in video and that the bar for entry into video podcasting was too high for many companies.

More from the Q & A soon.

Ciao,
Bob.

Goin’ to camp

I’m heading to Toronto for Podcamp this weekend. My day job is beginning a podcast, and I thought this was a great way to get some formal(formal-ish, I guess) training in the discipline, and to do some schmoozing with blogging, PR, and media colleagues.

So a couple of things here:

#1: If anyone out there is desperate to meet me, GET THERAPY. Or just send me an e-mail and we can have a coffee, lunch, drink, or something. I’m also there on Monday, but not podcamping.

#2: There’s a podcamp meme happening, so here are my answers:

1. Which celebrity// blogger//podcaster would you most like to meet at podcamp? Why?

I would like to meet Hugh McLeod. I think he’s a very funny guy, and seems to have a quirky personality that I think I’d find entertaining. Plus, he could maybe get me a discount on a really great suit.

2. A little homework now: Which podcamp registrants would you liketo meet? Why?

So many people. Leesa Barnes, Donna Papacosta, Mitch Joel, Maggie Fox, Dan Misener, Dave Forde — all people who are on my regular ‘to read’ list, and all entertaining, bright people with strong personalities (judging by their blogs, at least). I like that sort of person. And I figure I could learn a lot from any or all of them.

3. Who is your “dream interview” for your podcast? Why?

Don’t know if this would work for our podcast on learning and education, which is still in gestation, but Buffy Sainte-Marie. A PhD, a Sesame Street veteran, an amazing writer and performer… what ‘s not to love about this woman?

4. Who would you like to interview at podcamp?

Any of the musicians coming. I love talking about music. This, of course, has nothing to do with the day job. I just love music.

5. What is your, “Can’t miss it” session at podcamp?

Should your company be podcasting. Look at the freakin’ lineup!

6. Ginger or Maryanne?

Why the either? ;-)

Ciao,
Bob.

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